Comments on: Adobe’s Flash 10 for Android: A big win for mobile web apps http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009/06/22/adobes-flash-10-for-android-a-big-win-for-mobile-web-apps/ News About Tech, Money and Innovation Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:46:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Ciaran http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009/06/22/adobes-flash-10-for-android-a-big-win-for-mobile-web-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-903001 Ciaran Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:07:35 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=110350#comment-903001 Does anyone know if the new flash build for mobiles will have access to the phone's hardware? For example can developers check GPS location? or accelerometer stats? Being a flash dev myself, this would really make it fast and simple to develop apps for android without having to learn a whole new language! Does anyone know if the new flash build for mobiles will have access to the phone's hardware? For example can developers check GPS location? or accelerometer stats? Being a flash dev myself, this would really make it fast and simple to develop apps for android without having to learn a whole new language!

]]> By: Maht H8r http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009/06/22/adobes-flash-10-for-android-a-big-win-for-mobile-web-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-902999 Maht H8r Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:13:53 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=110350#comment-902999 Hey, Smartie McGee "Maht", Quantum can also mean "sudden and significant", <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quanta" rel="nofollow">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quanta</a>. While you're looking everything up and correcting people, go ahead and look up the word pedantic, ya jerk. Hey, Smartie McGee “Maht”, Quantum can also mean “sudden and significant”, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quanta. While you're looking everything up and correcting people, go ahead and look up the word pedantic, ya jerk.

]]> By: maht http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009/06/22/adobes-flash-10-for-android-a-big-win-for-mobile-web-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-866035 maht Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:27:47 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=110350#comment-866035 Quantum leap doesn't mean "large leap" it means "changes value between two quanta". Quantum leap doesn't mean “large leap” it means “changes value between two quanta”.

]]> By: Matthäus Krzykowski http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009/06/22/adobes-flash-10-for-android-a-big-win-for-mobile-web-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-865994 Matthäus Krzykowski Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:48:04 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=110350#comment-865994 @Rimantas <br>You choose not to quote the first part of the paragraph."Overall, both companies are allies in pushing the mobile web. Yet they do so by different means. For Google it’s about enabling native apps, the web, and hybrid forms of the two." I also suggest you read some of my other pieces at VentureBeat.<br><br>The point of the article is that the different means cause friction among Google and Apple. This friction is not about any iPhone-Google phone penis envy comparisons which are so popular on techblogs. Google loves what the iPhone does to the mobile web, from my best knowledge. The friction is about Google using some technology which affects the closed, integrated Apple eco system. WebKit is great for everybody, so is HTML5. Flash isn't. @Rimantas
You choose not to quote the first part of the paragraph.”Overall, both companies are allies in pushing the mobile web. Yet they do so by different means. For Google it’s about enabling native apps, the web, and hybrid forms of the two.” I also suggest you read some of my other pieces at VentureBeat.

The point of the article is that the different means cause friction among Google and Apple. This friction is not about any iPhone-Google phone penis envy comparisons which are so popular on techblogs. Google loves what the iPhone does to the mobile web, from my best knowledge. The friction is about Google using some technology which affects the closed, integrated Apple eco system. WebKit is great for everybody, so is HTML5. Flash isn't.

]]> By: Rimantas http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009/06/22/adobes-flash-10-for-android-a-big-win-for-mobile-web-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-865968 Rimantas Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:52:13 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=110350#comment-865968 "Google intensely pushes new web technologies that seek to make the Web even more compelling for mobile, thus bringing the richness of the PC browsing experience onto mobile devices. For Apple it’s all about the app."<br><br>Hey, analist! Did you know that Google pushes those technologies you talk about using Apple's WebKit engine (Chrome is using it). Also, did you notice, that Apple does not want flash so it is very much in the<br>same boat pushing HTML5/CSS3 forward?<br>I just hope Flash dies. “Google intensely pushes new web technologies that seek to make the Web even more compelling for mobile, thus bringing the richness of the PC browsing experience onto mobile devices. For Apple it’s all about the app.”

Hey, analist! Did you know that Google pushes those technologies you talk about using Apple's WebKit engine (Chrome is using it). Also, did you notice, that Apple does not want flash so it is very much in the
same boat pushing HTML5/CSS3 forward?
I just hope Flash dies.

]]> By: HereAndNow http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009/06/22/adobes-flash-10-for-android-a-big-win-for-mobile-web-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-865951 HereAndNow Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:48:39 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=110350#comment-865951 Flash & Skype video chat support are likely to be important features, for the upcoming Android-based smartbooks/netbooks, so the timing looks great.<br><br>HTML5 may ultimately offer a more efficient way to stream videos to smartphones but, nonetheless, Flash is widely used on the web, and it is probably best to have all of the "standard" web tools available for developers. Flash & Skype video chat support are likely to be important features, for the upcoming Android-based smartbooks/netbooks, so the timing looks great.

HTML5 may ultimately offer a more efficient way to stream videos to smartphones but, nonetheless, Flash is widely used on the web, and it is probably best to have all of the “standard” web tools available for developers.

]]> By: igniguy http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009/06/22/adobes-flash-10-for-android-a-big-win-for-mobile-web-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-865946 igniguy Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:31:32 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=110350#comment-865946 Look at what phonegap does. I think developers should push platforms to improve the capabilities of mobile browsers - that's the best run-anywhere platform i can think of Look at what phonegap does. I think developers should push platforms to improve the capabilities of mobile browsers – that's the best run-anywhere platform i can think of

]]> By: igniguy http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009/06/22/adobes-flash-10-for-android-a-big-win-for-mobile-web-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-865945 igniguy Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:28:08 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=110350#comment-865945 I really ought to be nagging at google, but i 'll post it here because they never respond:<br><br><br>+ One of the big advantages of Android is ease of deployment - no 10 day delay for app reviews or nasty bureaucracy. However: <br> - International Selllers like me cannot sell their apps in the android market because google checkout only supports US & UK atm. <br><br>+ Google advocates moving applications to the browser, But:<br> - Their mobile browser does not support any html5 technologies (in contrast, the iphone supports geolocation+ offline storage)<br> - Google does not provide a way to make web-based apps on the iphone<br><br>In short, i love android but they need to release I really ought to be nagging at google, but i 'll post it here because they never respond:

+ One of the big advantages of Android is ease of deployment – no 10 day delay for app reviews or nasty bureaucracy. However:
– International Selllers like me cannot sell their apps in the android market because google checkout only supports US & UK atm.

+ Google advocates moving applications to the browser, But:
– Their mobile browser does not support any html5 technologies (in contrast, the iphone supports geolocation+ offline storage)
– Google does not provide a way to make web-based apps on the iphone

In short, i love android but they need to release

]]> By: prathapan_sethu http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009/06/22/adobes-flash-10-for-android-a-big-win-for-mobile-web-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-865913 prathapan_sethu Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:31:31 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=110350#comment-865913 Developers would be able to develop better looking apps using Flash 10, and port them to other phones that support Flash too. Too bad iPhone and Blackberry are not going to support. Need a decent write-once run-anywhere platform for Smartphones, and Flash though proprietary, is closest to that goal. Java for ME apps do not look good. Developers would be able to develop better looking apps using Flash 10, and port them to other phones that support Flash too. Too bad iPhone and Blackberry are not going to support. Need a decent write-once run-anywhere platform for Smartphones, and Flash though proprietary, is closest to that goal. Java for ME apps do not look good.

]]> By: Marco http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009/06/22/adobes-flash-10-for-android-a-big-win-for-mobile-web-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-865905 Marco Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:42:43 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=110350#comment-865905 What for? What for?

]]> By: Spencer Schoeben http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009/06/22/adobes-flash-10-for-android-a-big-win-for-mobile-web-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-865883 Spencer Schoeben Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:54:57 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=110350#comment-865883 The iPhone needs Flash!!!! Now. The iPhone needs Flash!!!! Now.

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