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	<title>Comments on: Teen hacker releases Windows and Mac jailbreaking programs for iPhone 3G S</title>
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		<title>By: cyberfanatic</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyberfanatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have any new ideas to ensure the security of the software and you need some guidance and mentorship then why not take part in GSC Competition at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.globalsecuritychallenge.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.globalsecuritychallenge.com&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br&gt;At GSC we encourage brilliant security ideas either they are from start ups, new businesses, researcher or even a student. Have a look at the competition for a chance to win $10,000 cash grant, mentorship and invaluable publicity. The deadline for the &#039;Most Promising Security Idea&#039; category is 1st Sept, 2009. Entry is free!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have any new ideas to ensure the security of the software and you need some guidance and mentorship then why not take part in GSC Competition at <a href="http://www.globalsecuritychallenge.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.globalsecuritychallenge.com</a>. <br />At GSC we encourage brilliant security ideas either they are from start ups, new businesses, researcher or even a student. Have a look at the competition for a chance to win $10,000 cash grant, mentorship and invaluable publicity. The deadline for the &#39;Most Promising Security Idea&#39; category is 1st Sept, 2009. Entry is free!!</p>
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		<title>By: FxChiP</title>
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		<dc:creator>FxChiP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno, you seemed to have the time to mock his &quot;lack of useful skill&quot; just now, and you suddenly don&#039;t have time?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for &quot;not respectful of the legal concerns of the manufacturer&quot; -- what about the right of the purchaser to do as he or she wishes with property legitimately purchased and owned? And the right of the person to share what he has done with others or perhaps a whole world via the Internet? Are these less important than Apple&#039;s legal concerns? Note *especially* that the hacking of the phones is not out of malice or a desire to harm Apple; it is merely to be able to use the product to it&#039;s full potential, to &quot;free&quot; it. Apple probably bears more malice towards the hackers than they do to it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, you seemed to have the time to mock his &#8220;lack of useful skill&#8221; just now, and you suddenly don&#39;t have time?</p>
<p>As for &#8220;not respectful of the legal concerns of the manufacturer&#8221; &#8212; what about the right of the purchaser to do as he or she wishes with property legitimately purchased and owned? And the right of the person to share what he has done with others or perhaps a whole world via the Internet? Are these less important than Apple&#39;s legal concerns? Note *especially* that the hacking of the phones is not out of malice or a desire to harm Apple; it is merely to be able to use the product to it&#39;s full potential, to &#8220;free&#8221; it. Apple probably bears more malice towards the hackers than they do to it!</p>
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		<title>By: calgarygraphicdesign</title>
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		<dc:creator>calgarygraphicdesign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I had as much time as you, I would reply. But there would be no point explaining the uselessness of hacking to a crow of hackers. Hacking the iPhone clearly breaches the EULA and I have no time for people who do not respect the legal concerns of a manufacturer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I had as much time as you, I would reply. But there would be no point explaining the uselessness of hacking to a crow of hackers. Hacking the iPhone clearly breaches the EULA and I have no time for people who do not respect the legal concerns of a manufacturer.</p>
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		<title>By: dslanbieter</title>
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		<dc:creator>dslanbieter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are really genius.   I was very happy when it is released on Mac version. Props to George and Dev team!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are really genius.   I was very happy when it is released on Mac version. Props to George and Dev team!</p>
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		<title>By: FxChiP</title>
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		<dc:creator>FxChiP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Define a &quot;real, useful skill.&quot; Finding a jailbreak hack requires patience, dedication, discipline, and commitment. It requires incredibly strong analytical skills, *tons and tons* of logic, and problem-solving skills. It even requires the hacker to find and figure out unconventional methods of getting the stupid device doing what the hacker wants it to do, despite the device not exactly being designed for the purpose. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In short, it requires real, left-brained, objective skills that can be easily measured in terms of &quot;does it work&quot; and &quot;does it not.&quot; The results are always right in front of your face, and they&#039;re not in any shades of gray, and the only subjective part is &quot;how well&quot; it works -- and there are lots of ways to define and measure *that*, too. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So please. Since the *extremely complex and sophisticated* process of finding a jailbreak exploit is &quot;not a real, useful skill,&quot; define for me and every other reader here what is. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Terminology clarification note: I am using the &quot;experimental&quot; definition of hacker within the context of this posting. By that I mean that &quot;hacker&quot; is (at least in *this* context) defined as &quot;an expert or enthusiast&quot; and/or &quot;A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. RFC1392, the Internet Users&#039; Glossary, usefully amplifies this as: A person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular.&quot; Both definitions can be found in the Jargon File; this one specifically at &lt;a href=&quot;http://catb.org/jargon/html/H/hacker.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://catb.org/jargon/html/H/hacker.html&lt;/a&gt; . I AM *NOT* REFERRING TO THE CRIMINAL DEFINITION OF HACKER.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Define a &#8220;real, useful skill.&#8221; Finding a jailbreak hack requires patience, dedication, discipline, and commitment. It requires incredibly strong analytical skills, *tons and tons* of logic, and problem-solving skills. It even requires the hacker to find and figure out unconventional methods of getting the stupid device doing what the hacker wants it to do, despite the device not exactly being designed for the purpose. </p>
<p>In short, it requires real, left-brained, objective skills that can be easily measured in terms of &#8220;does it work&#8221; and &#8220;does it not.&#8221; The results are always right in front of your face, and they&#39;re not in any shades of gray, and the only subjective part is &#8220;how well&#8221; it works &#8212; and there are lots of ways to define and measure *that*, too. </p>
<p>So please. Since the *extremely complex and sophisticated* process of finding a jailbreak exploit is &#8220;not a real, useful skill,&#8221; define for me and every other reader here what is. </p>
<p>(Terminology clarification note: I am using the &#8220;experimental&#8221; definition of hacker within the context of this posting. By that I mean that &#8220;hacker&#8221; is (at least in *this* context) defined as &#8220;an expert or enthusiast&#8221; and/or &#8220;A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. RFC1392, the Internet Users&#39; Glossary, usefully amplifies this as: A person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular.&#8221; Both definitions can be found in the Jargon File; this one specifically at <a href="http://catb.org/jargon/html/H/hacker.html" rel="nofollow">http://catb.org/jargon/html/H/hacker.html</a> . I AM *NOT* REFERRING TO THE CRIMINAL DEFINITION OF HACKER.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is seen everywhere in the IT world.. those &quot;updates&quot; are just new hurdles for the so called &quot;hackers&quot;. There will always be someone smarter than you are, and therefor your software will always have holes in it no matter how hard you try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is seen everywhere in the IT world.. those &#8220;updates&#8221; are just new hurdles for the so called &#8220;hackers&#8221;. There will always be someone smarter than you are, and therefor your software will always have holes in it no matter how hard you try.</p>
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		<title>By: murdoch</title>
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		<dc:creator>murdoch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s about time somebody gave Apple the business. That company acts like a Michael Jackson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s about time somebody gave Apple the business. That company acts like a Michael Jackson.</p>
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		<title>By: calgarygraphicdesign</title>
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		<dc:creator>calgarygraphicdesign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody needs a real, useful skill.</description>
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		<title>By: lol</title>
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		<dc:creator>lol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niggers will be niggers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niggers will be niggers</p>
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		<title>By: tonyb75</title>
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		<dc:creator>tonyb75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... it merely allows unapproved apps to run on the iPhone.&quot; &lt;br&gt;WRONG! Well ok, you&#039;re kind of right...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jailbreaking your phone does more then merely allow unapproved apps. It unlocks many features on the iphone that are their but Apple doesn&#039;t want you to have access to. Its Apples way of holding off on features until the next release. That way they can fool you into buying the newest version even though the ability has been there all along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; it merely allows unapproved apps to run on the iPhone.&#8221; <br />WRONG! Well ok, you&#39;re kind of right&#8230;</p>
<p>Jailbreaking your phone does more then merely allow unapproved apps. It unlocks many features on the iphone that are their but Apple doesn&#39;t want you to have access to. Its Apples way of holding off on features until the next release. That way they can fool you into buying the newest version even though the ability has been there all along.</p>
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		<title>By: Fat Alberto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fat Alberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>boys will be boys</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boys will be boys</p>
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