KaChing’s stock picking is fantasy no more

kachingKaChing, the Palo Alto-based startup that’s like Fantasy Football for investing junkies, is finally letting users put skin in the game today.

It’s allowing people to invest real money, matching its best investors blow-by-blow, while slicing off a share that it says is small enough to challenge the $10 trillion mutual fund industry’s traditional fee structure. The site launched as a stock-picking site last year where people could publicly compete to beat the market and attracted more than 400,000 users through its Facebook application. It also boasts prominent angel investors like Netscape co-founder Marc Andreessen and OpenTable CEO Jeff Jordan.

With the new features today, a person can pick the site’s best performers and automatically match their allocations with actual money. So if a top investor on the site has put 25 percent of their portfolio into Apple stock, a quarter of the amount you invest alongside them also goes to Apple stock. The person you’re matching charges a fee, usually from 0.25 percent to 3 percent, and KaChing takes a quarter of that. KaChing is also working on collecting commissions for stock trades.

The holdings of these investors, dubbed “geniuses”, are public and they have to be on the site for a year. KaChing signs legal agreements with them to ensure they follow the company’s policies and don’t front run (or improperly jump ahead of customer orders). The company also has access to their real brokerage accounts. There’s also a message board for an investor’s followers to ask them questions about why they shorted a stock, for example.

“The good have nothing to fear,” said Andy Rachleff, who co-founded Benchmark Capital and was brought on board as KaChing’s CEO. “We are dominated by an open source philosophy — the idea that information wants to be free.”

KaChing ranks its investors with a metric called “Investing IQ”, which is most heavily weighted on how well an investor explains the rationale behinds their decisions. Then it considers whether they stick to their advertised strategy and then lastly, and most classically, their risk-adjusted returns. That shows how well an investor did given how risky their strategy was — higher risk tactics can produce bigger payouts, so it’s not fair to compare an investor who looks only at large, blue-chip companies with someone else who dives into emerging market stocks purely on return.

KaChing’s minimum is $3,000 and the company limits the maximum you can invest based on your net worth and financial experience. A user can follow multiple investors at the same time and there aren’t any exit fees. Rachleff said the company might start offering star performers more hedge fund-style compensation to incentivize people not to leave and start their own independent businesses.

Founder Dan Carroll says he wants KaChing to disrupt the mutual fund industry, which can charge around more than 3 percent in management fees to help people save for retirement. Mutual funds have hidden fees and little transparency, added Rachleff. (Vanguard said the industry average mutual-fund expense ratio was 1.19% last year.)

“I’ve invested since I was 15 and have beaten the market over the years,” he said.  ”I always knew I could do better. I wanted to create an investing marketplace, that could put small-time investors on the same playing field as the big guys.”

KaChing has raised $3 million in angel funding and has a number of competitors in the social investing space including Covestor, Market Riders and Cake Financial.

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  • hybrididentity
    It's an interesting site. I had the same idea a few years back and have turned it into what could be called a competing site, ProofTrader. Though we are just in the beta phase. I think what's different is that we emphasize content a bit more, we want it to be an entertaining site as well as give you ideas that are actionable. We distill the analysts' performance down to a 1 - 100 score. And it's not a 'fantasy portfolio' model, it's a model where you choose a target date and price for a stock and write an article where you explain your position. At any rate it seems like a popular emerging space these days.

    Before I got into developing this site and seeking out competitors I wasn't aware of social network stock picking sites like this one or socialpicks or even CAPS. It seems that this model has not yet reached the mainstream popular consciousness, not fully.

    www.prooftrader.com
  • cheng hong
    Chief Executive of kaChing, Andy, said this to a "virtual" trader:

    we insure that genius data is correct but not virtual portfolios. as i have told you many times we dedicate the vast majority of our resources to our new business. we fix problems related to virtual portfolios on a best efforts basis because we do not expect any of the virtual portfolio users to become geniuses. there are minor glitches that affect a tiny % of the virtual portfolios.

    Note the part where he says that kaChing doesn't expect any more virtual portfolio users to become "geniuses." Contradicting, isn't it?

    By the way, I caution anyone from using kaChing extensively. It's best to just "follow" and not "mirror". The simple reason for my recommendation is that there are severe conflicts of interest inherent in the system. For example, Daniel Carroll's research posts are ALWAYS rated 5 stars. Now isn't there huge room for manipulation? He's the founder, but he's ALSO a "genius". I've seen research posts very similar to his with much lower ratings (2 or 3 stars). That screenshot of daniel's portfolio is obviously manipulated. It's 5 stars, not a modest 4 like he suggests.

    Don't believe me? Surf around the website! He is deliberately manipulating his statistics and will, unfortunately, never be able to "dramatically change" the industry.

    This is 5/5:
    http://apps.facebook.com/kaching/research/5692
    Fair enough, but if this is a 5/5,

    why is:
    http://apps.facebook.com/kaching/research/1553
    Also 5/5? Shouldn't it be 4? or 4.5 AT BEST?

    AND this:
    http://apps.facebook.com/kaching/research/5984
    is just 3/5.

    You get my drift. Leave kaching to the wannabes. Their "assets under management" is increasing every single day, and that worries me.
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